Gerry Horkan (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I wish the Minister of State well in this regard. There is no point in us trying to reinvent the wheel. I accept that different countries have different priorities. However, I was interested to hear that yesterday that some countries are proactive. They have their own team of hackers trying to hack into their own systems. I am not sure that we have anybody doing that. Maybe the Minister of State is not in a position to tell us. No more than people check their windows and doors at night to make sure that they are locked, we need to have people testing these systems. We need to have -----