Aisling Dolan (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I thank the witnesses. They mentioned the school inclusion model initiated by the Minister of State, Deputy Madigan, and it has been rolled out in community healthcare organisation, CHO, 7 and they are looking at rolling it out in two other CHOs. The most recent budget had investment in occupational therapists and educational psychologists and it is really impressive to see that coming through. As the witnesses have said, we should see that happen in more areas.

I will follow up some of the questions I had earlier. I ask Mr. Curtis about the telltale signs of bullying in primary schools. Could he give one or two examples that he has seen?

We have fire drills in schools, with kids and teachers - like people in every company in the country - knowing where to run to when the bells go off. They know who has to do what and who is the warden or must put on the jacket. They know they leave their bags behind and run. We need other drills and I really like the Vice Chairman's use of the word "resilience" over the likes of "anti-bullying". Maybe we could have resilience drills in schools so people know what their roles are if they see something happen. I am very concerned we do not speak about this in schools and people do not know how to act when they see this happening. If we have such drills, the culture in school might change and students would feel more empowered to act.