Mr. Joe Saunders:

I will make a comment on Deputy Donnelly's question. We have seen increased collaborations, which is one of the things that would be welcome from our perspective. We develop collaborations both with new Departments and new sections in Departments. We also work with other NGOs with which we did not necessarily have ongoing operational collaboration.

On a more philosophical level, this openness probably existed because everybody realised that this pandemic was new and that nobody had the rule book. Therefore, none of us could presume that our own wisdom was necessarily the correct perceived wisdom. The Deputy is probably alluding to the fact that some of that fundamental honesty may be slipping away but I hope not. We have not seen evidence of that but we have the antennae well out for it. The fact is that we were all in this boat together. Nobody really knew who was steering the ship or in which direction it needed to go. It was a leveller in that respect and we all had to be a little bit humble about our own little piece of expertise.

I note and concur with the observations made by the Chair on community employment training.