Mr. Niall Cussen:

Indeed, the Senator did. I have no doubt about that and he stood for proper planning. However, I have some horrific memories of housing estates built with no sewerage services at all. There were open cesspits in housing developments and that was all justified on the basis that such-and-such a technical solution would do something in that regard. The technical solutions never manifested, however, and residents were left picking up the pieces afterwards, sometimes for years.