Dr. Lynn Sloman:

I would like to add a couple of sentences, if I may. Senator Higgins talked about the need to have hard targets for miles travelled. I absolutely agree. I call for the committee to recommend hard targets for absolute reductions in car mileage or absolute increases in sustainable transport mode share. In the work that we did for the Welsh Government, we could see that electrification would get us perhaps three quarters of the way to the 2030 targets but it could not get us the whole way there. We were also conscious that if the rate of vehicle electrification is not as fast as is hoped, a large gap appears. Having hard targets and holding Government to account in respect of them feels to me to be very important.

I will not speak to it now but I will send some information about "every village, ever hour", the slogan that has been adopted by Nordhessen in Germany. The Germans are deadly serious about achieving that and it might be an interesting example. That was all I wanted to say.