Richard Bruton (Dublin Bay North, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I will be brief and will not spend much time thanking people. Given Dr. Torney's point about the embedded prejudice around change in public bodies, which is very valid, how can the Minister effectively deliver the climate budget, for example, whatever is given to the transport sector? The Minister is the head of the pile but how does one get it done? Dr. Torney seems to be suggesting collaborative processes that would start in every village. It does not sound very swift.

In my experience with the national broadband plan, there is tremendous resistance within the system to any grand project, even though I believe the plan is a no-brainer but maybe that is prejudice. How do we move from the very tight cost-effectiveness model that is being used in public service project evaluation to something that would take a longer-term perspective where things become possible? It does not seem to be embedded in the current system.

From where does Dr. Caulfield believe the relative contributions for 2030, the first two climate budgets, from the transport sector can come? How much, respectively, will be delivered by new public transport infrastructure, switching to shared ownership of vehicles, e-bikes and electrification of our fleet? Perhaps Dr. Caulfield will write to the committee to explain how he came up with the figure of €10 billion for electric vehicles. Is he making an assumption about diesel pricing and including that? The subsidy for electric vehicles of €10,000 has gone and is falling. That would be for an entire fleet of 2 million vehicles. I do not know how Dr. Caulfield reached the figure of €10 billion but I am quite happy to learn how he did.