Ms Leanne Caulfield:

It would be appropriate for me to take that.

First, I will answer the Senator's immediately previous question regarding the figure of 10,000. That figure of 10,000 comes to us from the HSE national safeguarding office. Each year, the office publishes the number of reports that were made to it in the previous year. Those concerns can come from a variety of settings, including community and residential settings, and, indeed, hospital settings as well. We are reliant on the HSE for those figures. The HSE acknowledges that there could be under-reporting and under-representation, and, indeed, there are indications that there are instances of under-reporting, particularly in private nursing homes and where people perhaps are in family settings where they are reluctant to report a family member. There is not a comprehensive data set but that figure is based on the number of reports to the HSE in a given year. The commission is looking at the issue of data collection in its report in terms of how we can improve data collection and its accuracy.