Mr. Michael Kingston:

Second, my explanation to Senator Dooley is the way forward, whereby the board can technically work going forward but can bring in an experienced person full time. When I say "full time", I mean full time on a short-term rolling contract to assist the board. That will sort out the problem in the meantime while we fix this legislation.

In fairness to the Minister, Deputy Ryan, it takes a lot to get on top of one's brief and he may not have had a chance to understand all these issues fully. I would like that message to be conveyed to him, that we have a huge opportunity here to turn this negative situation into a huge positive.