Mr. Seamus McCarthy:

I will make a couple of points that may be of assistance to the committee. Tusla emerged from the HSE when it was established and, therefore, many of the legacy systems and organisational structures that were in place were taken over directly from the HSE. Effectively, one sees in Tusla a microcosm of the problems that are also found in the HSE. That probably explains the link with Health Business Services, HBS, which is a procurement unit within the HSE. If you like, the organisational relationship has continued.

On CPL, it certainly is a name that comes up. It is a provider of agency staff and is used in other organisations. There are other suppliers of agency services, so one would expect scope for a competitive procurement.