Mr. Fergal Black:

No, we have both. In the past we might have had a situation where individual offenders could have 50 sessions with a psychologist and other groups have no sessions. We have looked at ensuring that we have a breadth of interventions that we engage with offenders. Obviously we are engaged with the parole board and with probation.

Psychology is a very important service in terms of addressing the risk factors associated with offending. For instance, I managed the national violence reduction unit and within that we have a governor and a senior psychologist managing people who are the most challenging, violently disruptive offenders. It is a psychologically informed approach to address the risk factors associated with those offenders.