Mr. Eamonn O'Reilly:

I do not disagree with the Chairman. That is the case. We are talking about it but, as the committee will appreciate, these discussions are immensely commercially sensitive. The companies are of the very firm view that the market requires something of them that is different from what the hauliers seek. One of the very good things about this session this morning is that it allows this issue to be aired. The airing of this issue-----