Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 28 October 2020

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs

EU Response to Covid-19: Discussion

Ms Noelle O'Connell:

Most of the specific questions are more broadly for Mr. Kiely. I will let him deal with all the difficult technical ones, if that is okay. I thank Deputy Haughey. In terms of some of the questions, the Stability and Growth Pact rules suspended the deals with deficit and the informal September Eurogroup meeting agreed to continue the suspension of the pact. A review of the rules of the pact would obviously resume at the end of the year. These issues continue to be monitored at the various Eurogroup meetings. I trust that answers the question somewhat.

Deputy Haughey outlined succinctly some of the challenges that would arise in terms of any possible EU referendum, treaty change and some of the forces of populism and extremism. We have seen only too well on this side of the Irish Sea the combination of more than 40 years of negative discourse and rhetoric and how that can lead to a certain result in a referendum. There are certainly challenges but I do not see a demand across the EU member states for significant treaty change by the citizens.

In terms of the traffic light system, the Deputy correctly outlined some of the challenges in terms of how we even consider travel between different EU member states. For example, in some barrios in Madrid, if one lives in apartment No. 2 on one side of the street which is in a green zone one can travel freely within that area. However, if one lives across the road in apartment No. 7 and that zone has been deemed red, one cannot travel as freely. It seems very challenging to even consider international travel against the backdrop of the traffic light system, as the Deputy mentioned but let us not forget that one of the core fundamental principles of the EU is that freedom to move and to travel. How we reconcile the challenges of safeguarding, upholding and maintaining public safety, public health, public well-being and the safety and security of all of our citizens against the backdrop of this is the overarching priority, with travel being secondary to that. I will hand over to Mr. Kiely.

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