Mr. Brendan McDonagh:

One must be realistic about all our debtors in NAMA. When they are given a target to meet they know exactly what is needed to meet the debtors. Again, just to be fair to Avestus, as it is a requirement, that person became a director of Clairvue in, I think, December 2011. Clairvue made the first offers to us in October 2011, before that person was a director.