Mr. Jim Waldron:

I am sorry, 23% of the members of the industry are over the age of 66. I believe that 15% of them are over the age of 70. The drivers who should be cocooning are the ones that are probably out working more. They are the drivers who should be getting support because they have running costs. Their fixed costs have to be paid so how do they pay them if they have no income coming in? It is not right if they have to pay them out of their old age pensions.