Mr. John Farrelly:

On balance, it is a big decision to make and one has to consider who would suffer as a result.

The one we were really going after this year has actually been replaced. it was in Sligo, where it was just not physically acceptable anymore. I do not think it would be in anyone's interest to close the unit in Waterford. However, I definitely think it is improving.

One of the models we use is transparency. People get forgotten about. The idea of transparency and having people like committee members being able to read the report wakes people up to the reality of how we are treating people. To me, that is the best weapon.