David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

If I may interrupt for a moment, we can bring all the stakeholder groups we want back in again. Mr. Cummins may have seen during the previous Dáil term that the Joint Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach brought in representatives of all the insurance companies, one after the other, and chastised and tried to get information from them. The committee got very interesting information from them in some respects but nothing changed. Change will only come if there is political will to make change.

As my time is almost up, I will return to the point about not depending on the market to ensure the viability of businesses. The same argument has been made about wages. Given that business organisations have asked that the Covid payment should remain, has the Restaurants Association of Ireland taken a different approach to the living wage? If a living wage was proposed, would the association support it in the medium to long term?