Mr. Paul Bell:

To assist the Deputy, the big major private hospitals that receive funding are well known. We ran into difficulty with one of those major employers. I am sure that through his own investigations, the Deputy will be able to find out what hospital it was.

We objected on the basis that those hospitals effectively became section 38 employments, just like St. Vincent's, Beaumont or Tallaght hospitals. We believe that the same rules should have applied. We were resisted in one of those major private health providers.