Mr. Martin Varley:

I have seen some commentary to that effect. When I have checked it, however, it has not always turned out to be correct in terms of the reflection. I am aware that in the midwest, the Chairman's own region, there were commentaries to the effect that consultants were not going out. When I checked it, however, there was a long list of consultants who go out to practise.

The bigger issue is that there are restrictions on the type of procedures they can do in model 2 and model 3 hospitals. It also depends on the support facilities available. There is a range of procedures one can carry but some of the rest have to be done in the centres with high levels of support.