Mr. David Mack:

I thank Deputy O'Callaghan. First, we welcome the Legal Services Regulation Act 2015. That fits in exactly with what the Deputy stated. It encourages people to shop around. My role, as head of legal costs, involves third-party legal costs, and I am not fully qualified to explain our position as a purchaser of legal services. Suffice it to say that we certainly have a procurement model within the agency in terms of barrister panels acting for our own clinical indemnity scheme and general indemnity scheme. It is a feature of what we do at the agency. We are in a position to manage and control the costs that we directly incur, but the same cannot be said about third-party costs where, to quote Haran, we do not get "to call the tune". We can manage our own spend and do so in terms of some of the clinical indemnity claims and the general indemnity claims.