Shane Ross (Dublin Rathdown, Independent) | Oireachtas source

I am trying to recall. Not in any great detail. We realised they are very heavily indebted to the banks at this stage. When someone comes looking for a bailout, that is the only card they really have to play. The bottom line was they told us the situation was pretty dire and there is no point in going into detail at that stage if that is the starting point.