Ms Breda O'Keeffe:

In fairness, RTÉ has reduced its cost base by almost 25%. Between the years 2008 and 2013, inclusive, RTÉ delivered cuts of more than 30% in its cost base. NewERA conducted an efficiency review of RTÉ in 2015 and judged us to be efficient. The report, which the Deputy can read if he wishes, stated that we had delivered cost savings in excess of those of many other organisations. Undoubtedly, €20 million per annum will be very difficult, not least because of the work we have done to date, which has resulted in our cost base being 25% lower than it was in 2008. The Deputy is correct to express concern that achieving the savings will be challenging, but we have demonstrated an ability to save, together with our staff and management. It is not just we who have done it. Our staff were co-operative in taking pay reductions in 2008 and 2009.