Mr. Jim Breslin:

I can talk about attendance at those meetings. The question arose last week about the recent meeting in November. There is a record of that meeting. It is on the file. We record the meeting. There was toing and froing as to whether the record was a minute. A minute is usually signed off at a subsequent meeting and everybody agrees on it. We do not do that at all the meetings where Ministers meet people. We take our own record. We place it on the file and that suffices for-----