Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 4 December 2019

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs

Governance Issues in Scouting Ireland: Discussion

Photo of Alan FarrellAlan Farrell (Dublin Fingal, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

The information can be provided through the secretariat. I thank Deputy Mitchell. I have a few questions. Deputy Neville may come in then. Mr. Tennant's opening statement included several remarks about published reports. I have already dealt with the clarity I sought on that.

That was appreciated. I understand the volume of work required. I have spoken to enough of the delegates, individuals among our audience and members, publicly and privately, for several years, and I can safely say, on behalf of the committee, that the only other group we deal with more is Tusla. Committee members have put a great deal of thought and energy into Scouting Ireland. I acknowledge the delegates have also done so or they would not be here. It is important, however, for me to state the need for a sense of immediacy in the production of reports has not really been met in this instance. Dr. Geoffrey Shannon was referred to earlier by Deputy Rabbitte in this regard. We are still without a report on historic cases. Given the nature of the report, a significant period will have to be allocated for anonymising and sanitising the document so it can be made public. That also presents a difficulty because there are thresholds that have to be met from a legal perspective. I understand that but I wanted to put it on the record because it is worthy of being said. It has been said to me enough by members of the scouting movement, locally and nationally.

I have some technical questions on the operation of Scouting Ireland. What are the approximate legal costs or what is the percentage of the annual budget allocated for meeting legal costs? Dr. Lawlor might have a very specific answer but I would be happy with a ballpark figure.

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