Ms Eilis Barry:

One can look at it within the cohort of the scheme that is there and people who cannot access it even for the family law but then one can look at it from another point of view. It is very hard to identify one particular group and say they are the people who are most denied access to justice but we have in the past provided services for members of the Traveller community. We are running a clinic with the assistance of the Department of Justice and Equality for the Roma community. We see huge, unmet legal need in the area of housing and homelessness. I believe that in the independent law centre movement, there are almost ten law centres out there now and all of us could spend all of our time doing housing and homelessness cases and we would just be hitting the tip of the iceberg. There are issues we are almost afraid to take on because we believe the need is so great and that would be in respect of people with disabilities and their families. There is huge, unmet legal need in those areas, which is where the exclusions become really critical, because there is no legal aid if, for example, one wishes to bring a claim that one has been discriminated against on the grounds of one's disability in education.

It may sound like the exclusions do not matter, but they do because they affect discrimination, including housing discrimination in education. They are all excluded at present so they are-----