Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 27 November 2019

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality

Access to Justice and Legal Costs: Discussion

Mr. Philip O'Leary:

I might just come in on that point. I agree with Deputy Connolly. I have said before publicly that we are very good as a Legislature and we pass very good legislation in this country, but we are not so good at putting the resources in place to deal with the legislation. The Legal Aid Board is the recipient of change without necessarily having the extra resources to deal with it. When I came into the Legal Aid Board in 2011, we had waiting lists of 5,000 people. We spent a lot of time working on those waiting lists and over the years, even up to last year, we were reducing the number on a consistent yearly basis down to approximately 1,600. This year, it is going back up again because of the issue Mr. McDaid raised earlier about recruitment and resources. As I said publicly - I have said it before - we are not sufficiently resourced in terms of the type of outreach work that we could or would like to do. As Ms Barry said, we are probably the biggest family law practice in the country and the biggest childcare practice in the country. We hold ourselves up as best in class in terms of the service that we provide. To be fair, people recognise that, but in reality we do not have the resources to reach all needs.

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