Mr. Brian Carroll:

There are two parts to the answer to that question. First, there is no attempt to stop Mr. Mulvey engaging with the unions. The terms of reference explicitly require him to consult with all key stakeholders, including the relevant companies and the trade unions and workers' representatives. That is clearly in the terms of reference. There is no attempt to restrict Mr. Mulvey talking to the unions in those ways.

Second, in terms of the industrial relations, IR, piece, the view was that we have existing industrial relations structures and that they continue to operate.