David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I will give Ms Martin one example, because this worries me. Console was a real controversy. All of us accept that the vast majority of charities do an excellent job where there are no difficulties and they provide an excellent service. There are some, however, whether they were outliers or not, that had very serious challenges. Console's problems were only highlighted when the HSE's internal audit looked more deeply at what was happening. Flags had been raised, missed and not acted upon over a long period. When they were acted upon it was the internal audit that established what was happening. If the regulator does not have access to internal audit reports of organisations that could be flagging up some problems, then I am worried that the regulator is not across what might be happening in some charities in the way it should be.