Mr. John McKeon:

I want to be fair to employers in those situations. There have been some employers that would raise hair on the back of one's neck with their behaviour but most employers in that situation are not there by choice and they are trying to do their best. That is the reality. One can always pick out the egregious case as an example and there have been one or two notable cases that we have gone to court with but most employers are not doing it because they are trying to avoid their liabilities. They just cannot meet them.