Lord Puttnam:

Something that might be helpful to the committee is the evidence given to our select committee by Baroness Onora O'Neill, who is a philosopher.

Her laying out of the ethics of this issue and the ethics of free speech applies directly to Professor Woods's point. In Europe, we do not have first amendment rights. Ours is not binary. It is quite subtle. I sometimes feel that in Europe we get dragged into the same basket as first amendment issues and in a sense we have more space. That is an observation.

My last question is to Ms Kerr. Deputy Ryan, to an extent, asked it already about public service broadcasting, which is under pressure everywhere. What I find extraordinary, and we got this more of less right in the UK when I was growing up in the 1950s, is that an understanding of the subtleties and importance of public service broadcasting was entirely understood. It got badly beaten during the Thatcher years, and reconstructing the understanding that existed generally - it was not an imposed but a societal understanding - is extremely difficult. It possibly means levies and it definitely means a transfer of revenues from the major players to public service broadcasting of some sort, be it online or offline. Has Ms Kerr an observation on that?