Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 7 November 2019

Public Accounts Committee

Business of Committee

9:00 am

Photo of Imelda MunsterImelda Munster (Louth, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

Page 2 gives a list, with seven headings as to what are deemed significant risks. The responses are unreal. With regard to Nos. 1 and 2, pertaining to planning and design, the first line states the planning risk transfer was reduced as the HSE had received planning permission. There was limited risk as opposed to significant risk. With regard to No. 2, design, the State had already done the design so, again, there was limited risk, not significant risk. No. 4 concerns operational risks or events that could lead to the facility being unavailable, including failure to have the rooms in the facility heated to the correct temperature, leaks, vandalism, or failure to have the facility adequately cleaned. None of these is deemed a significant risk. Is the HSE saying a project is classified as a PPP project because of the risk that a radiator might not be working or that a tap might be dripping? Even in regard to the building being cleaned, do all public buildings not have cleaners to clean them? It is pure nonsense. On legislation, the correspondents more or less state in response to No. 7 that they should obey the law. It is totally unsatisfactory and pretty much a nonsense that this is their justification for PPP classification. Could we get a very detailed breakdown, in advance of the witnesses coming in, on who the contractors were, the operation costs, the companies, the duration of the contracts, the building costs, etc.?

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