Mr. Aidan O'Driscoll:

One Department after another has gone through this. I am sorry to cut across the Senator but I want to make this point because it is a major point which was made by the ERG. It stated that we could go on responding to individual incidents and fixing the particular leak or problem in the system or we could do something much more radical and look at how Departments should be structured for the 21st century in order to meet needs that are much more demanding now than they were when I joined the Civil Service in 1977.