Katherine Zappone (Dublin South West, Independent) | Oireachtas source

I thank all members for their contributions. To be perfectly clear, some of the primary concerns and disagreements we have had in the room this morning concern decisions that were made by the Bills Office rather than my Department or myself. Neither I nor officials had any hand in making those decisions, as members will be aware.

We are all engaged in making law from our own perspectives to ensure that the best interests and the voice of the child are heard in the context of people's experiences. Things need to improve in order for this to happen and, as referred to a number of times in the course of this morning's meeting, in order to ensure consistency in that regard throughout the country. In light of that, we have all engaged in deep reflection and done much reading on this. I have also consulted a number of stakeholders. I know that vested interests have also participated in the conversations. It is important that, as a result of that kind of deeper reflection, we try to make the best law we possibly can.

I look forward to discussing the amendment Deputy Sherlock tabled, which, as he said, he will consider resubmitting on Report Stage. We just have to check the wording with the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel. Again, that is standard practice. Furthermore, Deputy Sherlock may wish to offer his rationale for tabling the amendment, but I was not in a position to accept it because it suggests that the ombudsman is effectively made responsible for monitoring the court's conduct during in cameraproceedings, and the Bill has been framed with regard to the separation of powers. I could expand on that, but that is the heart of reflection on the matter and-----