Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 16 October 2019

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health

General Scheme of the Human Tissue (Transplantation, Post-Mortem, Anatomical Examination, and Public Display) Bill 2018: Discussion

Photo of Louise O'ReillyLouise O'Reilly (Dublin Fingal, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I thank Mr. Conroy for clarifying that. I have a friend who is a successful living donor. It is a marvellous thing to do. We need to ensure that the supports are in place for a person who has to take time off work or a person who attends to caring duties in the home to enable them to do this.

That brings me on to my next question, which concerns infrastructure and supports. Let us imagine that tomorrow morning we snap our fingers, the legislation goes through and there is a massive awareness campaign. However, we would not have the infrastructure in place if suddenly there was a massive uptake, and that is very much regrettable. This legislation on its own will not make any changes. I was very struck by the massive increase in the number of families willing to consider donation following a conversation with a specialist nurse. I have represented for some time the transplant nurses in Beaumont Hospital. They are the most amazing people but we just do not have enough of them. They are brilliant at what they do, and I would be happy to put them in front of any family. Nobody wants to have that conversation, but those people are the people to have it. What kind of infrastructure deficit is there? Are skilled personnel available but just not working in this jurisdiction? Are they available and working elsewhere? Would a specific training programme be needed? Are advanced nurse practitioners needed? I am not asking Mr. Conroy to put a figure on the deficit in personnel but I ask him to give us an indication of what is needed. The last thing we want is to do what we believe is a good thing - and God knows precious little of what we do in here is ever perceived as good outside of here - only for it not to be matched by resources once it leaves here. Will he give us just an indication of the resources needed and the lead-in time for them? I refer to the education needed and so on.

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