David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

That is something. We have examined this issue in the context of RTÉ and other public bodies where there were increases for different reasons. Still, this ratio seems extraordinary. Will our guests provide a clear note on why it happened? Ms Graham mentioned that it was partly because, when the moratorium was put in place during the crash, the NTA had no choice but to outsource. However, the ratio seems extraordinarily high.