Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

It is a useful discussion. We will not note or publish the information at this point. We will hold it over and include the organisation on our work programme. We will come back to the correspondence at that stage.

The next item of correspondence is No. 2343B, from the Department of Children and Youth Affairs, providing information requested by the committee on the number of active claims for the Minister being managed by the State Claims Agency. At the end of June 2019, the figure was 316 cases, with an estimated liability of €67.9 million. When the witnesses were here, we asked for the breakdown. The reply we received last week stated the State Claims Agency was collating the information and that when it was available, we would be contacted. We got information from the agency that we noted at the previous meeting. It told us separately that Tusla cases on its files point to a figure of €50.76 million. We are told in the letter it relates to 254 cases. When the two figures are added together, the agency has, in respect of each of the 254 cases in respect of Tusla, an average provision of €200,000. With regard to the Department of Children and Youth Affairs, we are told there are four cases. The State Claims Agency told us in its meeting last week that the cases managed by it in respect of the Department resulted in a figure of €460,000. It is providing an estimate of €115,000 for each of the four cases. Interestingly, the total amount covered is €67.9 million. When one removes the figures of Tusla and the Department, the balance refers to Oberstown Children Detention Campus. There are 58 claims in that regard. There is €16.68 million for claims in respect of the campus currently in the State Claims Agency files. That gives an average provision of €288,000 in respect of the 58 claims. I am just putting that on the record because, unless one combines the correspondence of last week and this week, one could not work out the figure. We will republish No. 2335B from last week with this week's correspondence where we picked our information from, if anybody is looking at it.