Mr. Patrick Reilly:

Deputy Gino Kenny's first words were stark. We have presented to the committee on mental health care on numerous occasions and made several good recommendations. It is frustrating when we come here and the committee makes recommendations.

Then six months has passed and we are on the phone dealing with all this stuff. On primary healthcare projects, for example, Martin asked where a person goes for support. Primary care centres are primarily based on office hours and outside those hours, at 6 p.m. or 7 p.m. on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday, someone who is in crisis cannot be told to come back on Monday morning. In the Traveller projects, it is the primary healthcare workers, the men's health workers and the mental health workers who take on that mental health work. It needs to be considered that some of these are on 20 hours or 12 hours. Some of them have issues with medical cards if they go over the threshold. Some of them are not even getting the basic minimum wage. These have been workers for more than 20 years. There are staff within the Departments for 20 years or 30 years who will receive a pension on retirement and our people are working on the ground day in, day out. As Ms Quilligan and Mr. Joyce will be aware, these people are not unemployed. That is the harsh reality. It is stark. We will be repeating the one message until all of those matters are addressed at national or departmental level.