Joan Collins (Dublin South Central, Independent) | Oireachtas source

How can we bring about that change? This has been raised in all the reports published in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s and in the task force reports. What can we do to ensure there is change at the top level, which is where it is driven? However, nothing has changed in terms of the education of children and so on. I want feedback from the witnesses about what we need to do.