Mr. Peadar Ó Scanaill:

I can add to that as I was present at the meeting. Again, I would be very reluctant to go down the avenue the Senator wishes to bring us down. We will look at the report tomorrow as there is a council meeting tomorrow. There may be something we will erase from it but, in fairness, we will always check that what was recorded as having been said was correct. If there is any conflict of interest or even the perception of a conflict of interest, one is always asked to declare it and remove oneself from the room. Looking back, and going back to any past presidents, these issues are minuted and there were some very short removals from the room in 2017 and 2018. In fairness, with regard to December 2017 and digging into the specifics, we will deal with it tomorrow and perhaps at future meetings down the line.

This particular corporate issue we brought to the committee today was described by me as coming from a council member sucking the oxygen out of the room. From the time of December 2017 and January 2018, a huge amount of effort by the 19 council members has gone into all of that stakeholder work. In fairness, looking back is something we may have a privilege to do now but we would not have had that privilege then. We had a change in registrar, the second registrar was hardly in a handful of weeks when some issue arose and we had to have another registrar, and that registrar could only attend for one day a week but we were not aware of that at the time. That rolled on for a while and then we had another registrar. We then recruited and we now have a full-time registrar. In fairness, the privilege of looking back is something we will be doing in the future.