Ms Fiona McDonnell:

With regard to ratios being breached, if one looks at the number of staff available, there is a requirement of adult-child ratio that is specific to the age range of the children. We would also look at auxiliary staff on site who may not be included in the adult-child ratio and, in the context of the governance aspect, we would check to see if they had been Garda vetted, had proper references and so on. That work happens for all staff in the service. A person who is not qualified and who does not have Garda vetting and references that have been checked and validated should not have direct contact with a child.