Mr. Pat Smyth:

-----there is no other way for Tusla to become aware other than somebody seeing and reporting it. Obviously the regulation services around the early years providers are trying to ensure that the processes, governance, activity and service in a particular provider is good enough not to allow for such behaviour, or at least have some other mechanism whereby people who are working in the field support it or are in a strong enough position to ensure that kind of practice will not happen. That is the regulation piece but there is no other way to actually identify such issues.