Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

We do not use the word "cut". We say we are operating to budget. How that is experienced by an individual is a different matter. What we are saying is that more money is going into our services this year than last year. More money is going into home help and disability services. Can we respond to the full demand? No. What we are trying to do is make best use of the resource we have to bring services in as close to budget as we can, albeit there are areas where there are excessive pressures, on the basis that this is the best way we hope to secure sustainable investment in the future. It is to demonstrate that we can-----