Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

On page 204 there is a figure for the public private partnership, PPPs, of €201 million. These are mainly primary care centre sites. There are 14 sites mentioned. Will the HSE send a note to the committee on this? The Committee of Public Accounts is looking at PPPs across all Government Departments that operate PPP developments with regard to how long a lease is and so on. We are not looking for financial arrangements but we need a bit of transparency on PPPs and we have said this to several other Departments that have PPPs in their financial statements. Whether or not they give value for money is a moot question. The answer is that nobody in this building knows because nobody has access to the commercial information to be able to make a call on it. People tell us that PPPs do offer value for money but I am agnostic because I do not have a basis for believing or disbelieving them. We do not have the information so I want to add this to the Oireachtas and committee's state of knowledge by gathering information on PPPs for members from every Department or agency that comes in to the committee.