Ms Michelle Murphy:

On households and energy poverty, obviously if we increase the carbon tax we have to look at how to support those households. Not only do they have to be supported financially but also, in the longer term, we have to consider how we will move them out of energy poverty. We will need to retrofit their homes so they are able to choose more energy efficient options into the future. The payment is critical but, beyond the payment, it is about what we do to get everyone to reduce emissions and how we target particular households and make sure they are retrofitted and energy efficient, so they can move out of energy poverty for the longer term.