Ms Bernie McNally:

Yes, and I know that that was the word used in the media, but it is not the case. We know that many families face major challenges in getting places for their babies, wobblers and toddlers, but that is because of the growing demand for childcare and because more women are working. It is a success story in some ways, predominantly one about the return of women to work and so on. Just to be clear, we now have twice as many places for children aged up to three years old as we had four years ago and nearly twice as many places under ECCE. We managed to do both.