Mr. Pat Smyth:

If a child is taken into care under section 12 the child may, for a period of time, be in the Garda station or, as more likely and as publicised recently, in some situations will end up in a hospital where they have not been able to provide care for some reason or another for a shorter period of time.

When Tusla engages with the Garda in that case, we have a facility and a service nationally with a private provider that when a child is taken into a-----