Ms Lorna Gallagher:

If I can assist the Senator on some of those figures, on our receipt of the 2,700 cases that transferred to us on commencement, a lot of was done on them and we netted them down to 1,157 appeals. We were able, for example, to group some similar appeals into one appeal etc. We wrote out and some were not proceeding and some others had been resolved. There were a number of reasons many of them fell away. From the grouping of 1,157, Commissioner Kennedy then commenced a process of case management conferences, which is a small process where the parties can come in and a conversation can be had, fairly informally on some occasions, and an opportunity to resolve cases exists if people want to talk. If people want to proceed, then they can. We have now, at present, on the legacy side, 658 of those cases remaining as of 20 May 2019.

On the question of representation by barristers at the commission, this is a very broad brushstroke figure but I estimate that approximately 40% or above are not represented. We have-----