Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

Part of our problem is that we have huge fragmentation. Charities are doing work that should be done by public services. There is a problem in that we are finding it hard even to get a coherent map of who does what and where. It is very difficult to test value for money when there is that kind of fragmentation. It is not that there is not very good work being done by all of these organisations but they are doing the core work as opposed to additional work and there is a fragmentation of services. If there is good organisation embedded in one location, a person may get a different outcome. The lack of coherence is part of the problem and a value for money issue is part of that. A big reform piece is needed.