Mr. Cormac Healy:

I wish to make one point. As the Chairman indicated in respect of Glanbia and Kepak, others have been involved in the dairy element and trying to improve it. I do not dispute the figures that have been mentioned, but it is worthwhile checking some of those efficiency figures with Teagasc. They have been quoted and we should all use them because it would be useful. ABP Food Group limited has been engaged on calf-to-beef and dairy calf-to-beef systems, trying to demonstrate there are good and bad bulls, that is, there are those that can do better in respect of their quality, and Dawn is involved in further efforts on the dairy beef side of the business.