Mr. Kieran Mulvey:

The code of practice is a voluntary code, as are the charities code and the Dóchas code. We have until 2021 to implement it. According to the implementation timescale, 2019 is a year of learning; we expect the code to be implemented in 2020 and to achieve compliance in 2021. Everybody will then know what is required. Whether a CEO is a member of a board is a matter for the constitution of the organisation concerned. I do not believe it is good practice for a CEO to be a member of the board. Our CEO is not a member of the board.