Dr. Kenneth Burns:

That would be very helpful to everyone. The in camerarule is there for a good reason. We need to protect parents and children. It is important that everyone knows the limits of the rule. We are arguing that the limits are opaque. Professor Shannon referred earlier to the exact methods that are allowed for direct participation for children and young people in proceedings.

We are asking for it to be explicitly laid out with a multiplicity of methods, including qualitative research outside the proceedings. When the amendments were considered, it was about bringing people into the court. Having been thought out, there are reasons one needs to meet people outside courts and facilitate them in a safe way to speak outside the court process.